What I think of a video by "thebig3box network" (otherwise known as "bugsy") called "How I feel about Archie Sonic haters"
To the guy known as bugsy, I apologize for not really being the first to comment on your video called "How I feel about Archie Sonic haters," so I'm going to kind of postpone the post that was going to point out stories that I like from the Archie Sonic comics and more. To the guy known as bugsy, you did a good job; I've kind of been a little busy with playing some games, emailing my friend Emily ("CrystalMaiden 77"), and work, plus I'm working on doing a review of "Sonic Colors" versus its remaster for the Xbox One and Nintendo Switch. Bugsy is right that the Archie Sonic comics before Ian Flynn weren't just Ken Penders's comics because other people like Angelo DeCesare, Karl Bollers, and Michael Gallagher wrote for the Archie Sonic comics as well! I think that people just want to say "oh, Ken Penders wrote all the Archie Sonic comics before Ian Flynn did" because of how infamous Ken is and because fans of IDW want to praise Ian like he's completely incapable of doing no wrong! Sure, I don't think Ken Penders is the best writer, BUT I don't think he's the worst writer, either, plus I think he, along with other writers like Angelo DeCesare, Karl Bollers, and Michael Gallagher have definitely had flaws in at least some of the stories they wrote.
In case you're interested, you can see Archie Sonic comic reviews on YouTube from my friend "CrystalMaiden 77" from YouTube at the link https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHvkpKypKLU3SFHZGNG1KuJWH3Ut4Xv3l to find out what I mean. "CrystalMaiden 77" is a great reviewer and she makes a LOT of good points in her reviews. Like I said before, I do love Sonic games like the "Sonic Adventure" games, "Sonic Unleashed, "Sonic Generations," and "Sonic 3 and Knuckles," but to say that EVERY comic book and TV show has to be 100% like the Sonic games would be absolutely stupid. That's why I don't consider it a crime for Sonic to have a girlfriend ("Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog" and Archie Sonic comics showed that), for Amy to have a crush on someone other than Sonic (YES, a "Sonic Boom" episode called "Blue with Envy" had such a concept shown), or for Sonic to have siblings named Sonia and Manic and parents. I think that uniqueness in Sonic media should be praised, NOT condemned, contrary to what game purists want you to think.
I think that Ken Penders had some very nice things in some of the stories he wrote, especially in some of the Knuckles comics because I loved Knuckles having parents named Locke and Lara-Le, plus it was nice for Knuckles to have a stepdad named Wyn and to have a girlfriend named Julie-Su:) I think that some of the world-building under Ken Penders, Karl Bollers, and other writers before Ian Flynn is really taken for granted and severely under-appreciated! And if people think that every story by Ken Penders was absolutely atrocious, I don't believe that at all because there were other writers BESIDES Ken Penders who not only made good stories but bad stories, too! For instance, I hate the story arc from the Archie Sonic comics that consists of issue #39, "Mecha Madness," and issue #40 because it makes the story where Sonic was slapped by Sally in issue #134 look a MILLION times better by comparison! Now, I won't disagree with anyone who says that the slap from Sally should not have been included in issue #134 because such people would be absolutely right, but to say that Sally's slap is the worst thing in all of media would be ABSOLUTELY IDIOTIC because there are MULTIPLE THINGS that can make Sally's slap look embarrassingly light by comparison!
People can look at bad SpongeBob episodes, some Sonic games, and even other Archie Sonic comics to confirm that because for example, I hated how SpongeBob acted in "A Pal for Gary" and I hated Mr. Krabs's behavior in "One Coarse Meal!" In fact, at least TWO other such horrible things happen in Archie Sonic issue #40, because in the "Mecha Madness" special after Sonic is turned back to normal by Nicole after he was roboticized into Mecha-Sonic by Robotnik in issue #39, Antoine and Sally have Sonic imprisoned, which was REALLY stupid and heartless of them! Sally and Antoine should have REALIZED that if Sonic was imprisoned, Sally, Antoine, and the rest of the Freedom Fighters except for Sonic would be captured and roboticized because THAT'S EXACTLY PART OF WHAT HAPPENED IN ISSUE #38!!! The only Freedom Fighter who didn't get captured in issue #38 was Sonic, and even BUNNIE got kidnapped! I hated how Sally said that Sonic doesn't deserve special treatment in issue #40 because if anything, he's the one MOST DESERVING of special treatment because he's the best Freedom Fighter they had, and for Sally and Antoine to treat him like he's a criminal was ABSOLUTELY UNFORGIVABLE>:(
I loved how Amy stood up for Sonic in issue #40 and I loved how Sonic appreciated Amy standing up for him with a happy smile instead of hating her for that exact reason. And if people think Sally's slap to Sonic in issue #134 was bad, well, 1. slaps happen a lot from girls in media, 2. Sally apologized to Sonic for the slap in issue #187, and 3. Bunnie was threatening to KILL SONIC THE HEDGEHOG IN ISSUE #40!!! Sonic didn't deserve a death threat from Bunnie because while Bunnie WAS hurt by Sonic while Sonic was Mecha-Sonic in issue #39, Bunnie wasn't KILLED by Sonic when he was Mecha-Sonic plus Bunnie didn't receive any horrible diseases or any broken limbs! I wouldn't have blamed Sonic if he wanted to leave the Freedom Fighters because of how horribly Sally, Antoine, and Bunnie treated him in "Mecha Madness" and issue #40, and Ken Penders didn't write those infuriating stories because MICHAEL GALLAGHER did! If Sally wanted to punish Sonic, then that could work, but ONLY if Sonic could keep fighting Robotnik like he's SUPPOSED TO, and maybe Sonic could have been banned from eating chili dogs for 3 weeks or something like that but still be able to fight Robotnik!
"Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog" (and maybe even "Sonic Underground," too) had Sonic eat chili-dogs FAR TOO MUCH and in one of the Fleetway Sonic comics, he loved shakes, burgers, and hot dogs, plus in Archie Sonic comic #222, Sonic ate some bread! So I don't see why Sonic couldn't have done something like eat French toast, pizza, or scrambled eggs; Rotor or Tails could have made an oven! I can understand if people didn't like Sally slapping Sonic in issue #134, but I think the story itself was fine, plus I did like Sonic standing up for himself to Sally! Of course, to say that the artwork in that story was good would be absolutely laughable because Sally looked HORRIBLY creepy sometimes when she was yelling at Sonic, plus sometimes, characters like Sally and her mom looked terrible because of their eyes not having any corneas! Personally, I don't think Sonic and Sally being a couple was a good thing at all because I think that Sonic is more of a risk-taking adventurer while I consider Sally a cautious person who likes to rule, but it's fine if bugsy wants to ship those two.
I don't think Sally is a bad character in the preboot Archie Sonic comics; in fact, she's one of my favorite characters because of how deeply characterized she is, and she's not really a "Mary Sue," contrary to what people may say because she makes a lot of mistakes. I think Sonic is a fine character in the preboot Archie Sonic comics, but I think HE kind of deserved the title of "Gary Stu" or "Mary Sue" more than Sally did because Sally didn't have special powers like Sonic did like turning intangible or anything like that. I don't think it was really bad of Sally to be worried about Sonic's safety in issue #134, however, because THAT was completely understandable considering the tragedies and heartbreak she's seen and put up with before issue #134. Of course, I think that the slap should have been left out, and Sally and Sonic could have just had a non-violent conversation and there you go!
Now, I don't think that every Archie Sonic comic writer before Ian Flynn was a terrible writer; far from it, in fact:) I loved how writers like Ken Penders and Karl Bollers liked to do world-building and make stories that aren't exactly like the stories in Sonic games because for example, I loved learning about Nate Morgan and the tragic backstory he had in issue #65, plus it was sad to see him sacrifice himself in issue #100! And OK, sure, I DID complain about at least two stories from Michael Gallagher, but not every story he did was absolute trash, and I could say the exact same thing for some other writers like Michael Gallagher, Angelo DeCesare, Ken Penders and Karl Bollers! And like my friend "CrystalMaiden 77," I would like Scourge to be redeemed, and in addition, I'd like FIONA to be redeemed, TOO because Fiona wasn't really an evil person before issue #172 of the Archie Sonic comics came up! In fact, if ANYTHING, Fiona was anything BUT evil as shown in Knuckles comic #28, Sonic comic #146, and Sonic comic #152 because a person like Fiona who was worried for Nic the Weasel's safety in a flashback of Knuckles comic #28 doesn't really deserve to be considered an evil person!!!
I can't really consider Fiona evil in Sonic comic #146 either because she was worried for Sonic's safety, plus I LOVED how furious she was at Snively in issue #152, which made sense considering that he was related to Robotnik and because Robotnik imprisoned her for a long time!!! I think Fiona could have been a hero like she was in the "Other M" comics that Ian Flynn made because she had cyborg laser hands and she was a hero! No, I don't think Fiona would have had to be a Knothole Freedom Fighter, but maybe she could have been a Freedom Fighter in the Dragon Kingdom or Downunda, and maybe Scourge could have joined her there! Now, I DO think that Ian Flynn DID have some nice ideas like giving Scourge and Fiona neglectful parents and giving Scourge a new design, plus making the Iron Queen a technomage and giving the Iron Queen a new design and a back-story was definitely a nice touch as well. But I'd say Ian Flynn's the worst writer of the entire Archie Sonic comics because he pretty much ruined everything that made that made it good and unique from the Sonic games because he had Knothole Village destroyed AND HE HATES CHARACTERS LIKE SALLY, BUNNIE, AND NICOLE!!!
Characters like Sally, Bunnie, and Nicole don't deserve his hatred; I'd say characters like ASH AND HAMLIN are more deserving of hatred than those three because Hamlin was just a jerk from the first time we saw him in Princess Sally miniseries issue #1, plus Ash was an unlikable dirtbag in issue #134 and ESPECIALLY issues 153 and 154! Geoffrey saved Hamlin's life, so any grudge Hamlin had against Geoffrey should vanish like a puff of smoke, and Ash isn't a great hero like Sonic, so he needs to KINDLY step back and let Sonic be Mina's darn bodyguard! It's just so CONFUSINGLY STUPID that Ian Flynn DIDN'T even TRY to consider that maybe trying to make things exactly like the games ISN'T A NECESSITY, WHICH I think is a requirement! Tradition can hold us back in all the wrong ways, and when it's not, we're getting STUPID things like the destruction of Knothole Village in issue #175, a stupid council of Acorns that tries to take away Sally's job of leading the Freedom Fighters in issue #197, and Ian Flynn having horrible things happen to Sally, Rotor, Bunnie, Antoine, and Nicole! OK, sure, "Sonic Underground," "Sonic SatAm," "Sonic X," "Sonic Boom," and "AoStH" (the abbreviation of "Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog") all had at least some problems, but I love how at least some of those shows tried to be original, especially the first two TV shows I mentioned.
"Sonic Underground" is probably my most favorite Sonic TV show because of Sonic having siblings named Sonia and Manic, plus I do love Sonia as a character along with her friend Mindy that you'd get to see in this episode of "Sonic Underground" called "The Price of Freedom." Here's something interesting: "CrystalMaiden 77" didn't grow up watching "Sonic SatAm" or reading Archie Sonic comics; she spent at least some of her life with Sonic games, but even THEN, she was open-minded enough to see what other interpretations of media like the Archie Sonic comics, Fleetway Sonic comics, and "Sonic Underground" had to offer! And I didn't really grow up watching "Sonic SatAm," either, but I DID watch "Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog," "Sonic Underground," "Sonic X," and "Sonic Boom," and I was willing to give those things, along with Fleetway Sonic comics, Archie Sonic comics, and "Sonic SatAm" a fair shake. I don't understand why people who love only the Sonic games and IDW aren't willing to give things like "AoStH," "Sonic Underground," and pre-Flynn Archie Sonic comics a fair shake because while there CAN be some idiotic ideas and flawed execution, there can be some good stories and some GREAT ideas as well! For example, I don't think Sally should have been Sonic's girlfriend, but I do like the idea of Sonic having Mina and maybe some other girls to flirt with since "AoStH" and the Archie Sonic comics proved that about Sonic and Scourge!
Personally, I think MINA should have been Sonic's girlfriend instead of Sally, but I don't hate Sally at all from the preboot, and if anything, she doesn't really DESERVE hatred, though I can understand if people hated her for imprisoning Sonic in issues 40 and 156 and wasn't considerate to Fiona in issue #160, but what happened in issue #160 was Ian Flynn's fault! I think that Sally PROBABLY, if she was REALLY in character in issue #160, would have actually thanked Fiona for what she did like a decent person, and even with the bad things Sally has done, she wasn't TRYING to get people to hate her, and she can actually be a nice person like issues 53, 57, 69, 123, 125, 134, and 187 show about her. If people who are fans of Sonic games and IDW can't try to appreciate the unique stuff other media like the pre-Flynn Archie Sonic comics and "Sonic Underground" can bring to the table, maybe such people should realize that something like the pre-Flynn Archie Sonic comics and "Sonic Underground" probably won't be for them! I just hope that they don't use that as a criticism against something like "Sonic Underground" or pre-Flynn Archie Sonic comics and the fans of those things because it really shouldn't be, plus I've never really had any serious problems with multiple versions of Sonic media. To bugsy, I hope you enjoyed my post, and take care, good sir:)
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